She knows that what we’re pointing out isn’t only true, but it also endangers her “faith”. Damn I love to kick the crutches from under those religious folk! 😉

Nice point about the full moon. I’m just in the middle of programming a common era calendar and I have moon phase info in that. I’d always wondered how Easter was calculated. The truth, as they say, can set you free.

Christmas is what it stands for,Christ mas.Easter was orginally to celebrate the ressurection of Jesus Christ,not easter bunnies and eggs,as im sure you guys believe in

Just because Christians slapped their own name on the ancient pagan winter solstice festivals does not take away from the fact of the matter. And look at how they work out the date of Easter….. First Sunday on or after the first full moon after the Spring Equinox…… Equinoxes, full moons, doesn’t that just scream pagan?

if it wasnt for God you wouldnt be able to take your next breath.

Strange, humans and all the other animals were able to breath long before mankind ever invented a god.

Just remeber one thing,when you finally die,and face God alone you will have no excuse as to why you didnt accept Him.

In the highly unlikely event this actually happens, as I have always said, my choice would be Hell, as I couldn’t stand to live in paradise and not help people who were suffering. For me, the choice of eternity with god or eternity in hell is no different than a choice of eternity with Hitler or eternity in Auswizch (sp?)

but all marc and andrew want to do is insult people.

And then you say…..

For the fool says in His heart there is no God

You call us fools! Your first post on this site just dripped in homophobia. Seems like you came onto this site solely to insult people. And besides, as every sensible person knows, the end to that quote is “And the wise one shouts it from the roof tops”.

The very fact that you don’t want to come back here because it might steer you away from your path just indicates one of the problems with christianity, or indeed any other religion. As Brian Flemming put it so eloquently in “The God Who Wasn’t There”, the greatest crime in fundamentalist christianity is to think.

I used to be a Christian. Then I thought about it. Here’s hoping you do the same some day. All the best.

God has nothing to do with my ability to breath: that’s down to my autonomic nervous system.

Fools believe in what they can’t see; wise men don’t need to believe in anything.

Shame on you Lyn. If you trust dumb sayings like that you just quoted you should learn Pascal’s Wager – the simplistic trick that proves your god – and learn why it’s also wrong.

Wrong about Easter too, darlin. Easter is a hijacked celebration from other cultures that Christians use to celebrate another fictional event. We don’t have to believe in it – I can get very fat eating easter eggs; I don’t need faith to do that! Just chocolate.

Looks like you just enjoy being wrong. If god exists, Lyn, why then do you need a cancer hospital? Why don’t your prayers work? Why am I still here able to take the mick? Because if your god exists, he doesn’t care! You geddit yet? Either it doesn’t give a shit (so you’re wasting your time and mine) or it doesn’t exist – which amounts to the same.

As for time off, no, I don’t. When I work, I work 7 days per week regardless: I don’t even take national holidays. I just rest when I need to.

Au contraire, belief in god *does* send you back to the stone age, too. Actually, back as far as man has been able to communicate with other humans. This in this age of understanding, we no longer need it. However, many people still have the brain chemistry necessary: this is down to evolution, but that is another discussion altogeher.

Loving a god means you credit you invisible friend with pretty much everything. Have you *listened* to some of the prayers your preachers spout every Sunday? Remove your god and there’s precious little of the modern world left; that’s what the Amish (for a quick example) and other devout believers think and that’s why they live the way they do.

Would I let you pray for me? That’s an interesting question. Praying does nothing for the prayee – and in some cases, has been documented to make them worse (for reasons that I won’t go into now). Praying only does something for the person doing the praying, because it makes them feel better. The effect is purely psychological of course, and it’s cheaper AND easier than actually doing something!

I can’t stop you praying for me. Would I encourage you to? No. I would ask you get off your knees and do something practical.

Prayer is the single most selfish act that anyone can perform (short of a purely negative actins). Positive actions change the world, silent prayers change nothing. Spoken prayers can even change people to do evil things.

Don’t preach, get off your arse and do something to help: someone. Anyone! Don’t just give your money. Give yourself. Give your time. But keep your prayers for your own time.

Visit a hospice, work in a charity shop, hell, go visit an old relative that you haven’t seen in ages and spend some time with them. Make a difference, not hot air.

By the way Lyn, you are aware that Easter and Xmas date back to before Christianity even existed and are actually modified pagan festivals aren’t you?