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	<title>Comments on: Spooks prompts a whinge</title>
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		<title>By: mediawatchwatch.org.uk &#187; MCB paranoia reaches new heights</title>
		<link>http://www.mediawatchwatch.org.uk/2006/11/01/spooks-prompts-a-whinge/comment-page-1/#comment-54229</link>
		<dc:creator>mediawatchwatch.org.uk &#187; MCB paranoia reaches new heights</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Jan 2007 12:06:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] begins the press release. Indeed, it is easy to imagine a cabal of media conspirators sitting around a table figuring out ways to promote division among British Muslims - after they have fulfilled their &#8220;malicious agenda&#8221; against Christianity and succeeded in their &#8220;deliberate attempt to dilute the thinking of ordinary Hindus&#8221;. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] begins the press release. Indeed, it is easy to imagine a cabal of media conspirators sitting around a table figuring out ways to promote division among British Muslims &#8211; after they have fulfilled their &#8220;malicious agenda&#8221; against Christianity and succeeded in their &#8220;deliberate attempt to dilute the thinking of ordinary Hindus&#8221;. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Stewart Cowan</title>
		<link>http://www.mediawatchwatch.org.uk/2006/11/01/spooks-prompts-a-whinge/comment-page-1/#comment-44717</link>
		<dc:creator>Stewart Cowan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Nov 2006 21:39:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mr Simon Barrow of Ekklesia, perhaps this is nearer the mark than your article?

http://blog.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=blog.view&amp;friendID=93636224&amp;blogID=189440095&amp;MyToken=a4c0c975-5cba-4fdb-b356-834e6df0a109</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mr Simon Barrow of Ekklesia, perhaps this is nearer the mark than your article?</p>
<p><a href="http://blog.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=blog.view&#038;friendID=93636224&#038;blogID=189440095&#038;MyToken=a4c0c975-5cba-4fdb-b356-834e6df0a109" rel="nofollow">http://blog.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=blog.view&#038;friendID=93636224&#038;blogID=189440095&#038;MyToken=a4c0c975-5cba-4fdb-b356-834e6df0a109</a></p>
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		<title>By: Nick Walsh</title>
		<link>http://www.mediawatchwatch.org.uk/2006/11/01/spooks-prompts-a-whinge/comment-page-1/#comment-43230</link>
		<dc:creator>Nick Walsh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Nov 2006 18:25:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m a big fan of Spooks, and a committed Christian and I&#039;m not ashamed of admitting either! I enjoyed this episode because I am well aware that there are some really dodgy (people who claim to be) christians, as well as their are nutters in Islam, atheism, hinduism and any other belief system you can think of. 

I think Spooks highlighted a really important factor that ALL religious leaders (or any ideologies leadership) needs to be aware of, there are people who are simply looking for a cause to use to justify their immoral/unethical behaviour. While the BBC does have anti-Christian leanings I don&#039;t think this Spooks episode was in that vein (although that may disappoint the writers!)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m a big fan of Spooks, and a committed Christian and I&#8217;m not ashamed of admitting either! I enjoyed this episode because I am well aware that there are some really dodgy (people who claim to be) christians, as well as their are nutters in Islam, atheism, hinduism and any other belief system you can think of. </p>
<p>I think Spooks highlighted a really important factor that ALL religious leaders (or any ideologies leadership) needs to be aware of, there are people who are simply looking for a cause to use to justify their immoral/unethical behaviour. While the BBC does have anti-Christian leanings I don&#8217;t think this Spooks episode was in that vein (although that may disappoint the writers!)</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew Nixon</title>
		<link>http://www.mediawatchwatch.org.uk/2006/11/01/spooks-prompts-a-whinge/comment-page-1/#comment-39744</link>
		<dc:creator>Andrew Nixon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Nov 2006 11:47:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well. Just days after denying that Christians are violent, the Evangelical Alliance have published a report containing this passage: 

&lt;blockquote&gt;If, as most Christians accept, they should be politically involved in democratic processes, many believe this may, where necessary, take the form of active resistance to the state. This may encompass disobedience to law, civil disobedience, involving selective, non-violent resistance or, ultimately, &lt;b&gt;violent revolution&lt;/b&gt;.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

&lt;i&gt;Emphasis mine&lt;/i&gt;

More here: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2006/11/05/nrelig05.xml</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well. Just days after denying that Christians are violent, the Evangelical Alliance have published a report containing this passage: </p>
<blockquote><p>If, as most Christians accept, they should be politically involved in democratic processes, many believe this may, where necessary, take the form of active resistance to the state. This may encompass disobedience to law, civil disobedience, involving selective, non-violent resistance or, ultimately, <b>violent revolution</b>.</p></blockquote>
<p><i>Emphasis mine</i></p>
<p>More here: <a href="http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2006/11/05/nrelig05.xml" rel="nofollow">http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2006/11/05/nrelig05.xml</a></p>
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		<title>By: Simon Barrow</title>
		<link>http://www.mediawatchwatch.org.uk/2006/11/01/spooks-prompts-a-whinge/comment-page-1/#comment-39210</link>
		<dc:creator>Simon Barrow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Nov 2006 03:31:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for that link, Joe. On Ekklesia we&#039;ve just published this piece on the possibilities of Christian violence in the UK: http://www.ekklesia.co.uk/content/comment/article_06114violent.shtml</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for that link, Joe. On Ekklesia we&#8217;ve just published this piece on the possibilities of Christian violence in the UK: <a href="http://www.ekklesia.co.uk/content/comment/article_06114violent.shtml" rel="nofollow">http://www.ekklesia.co.uk/content/comment/article_06114violent.shtml</a></p>
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		<title>By: Ian</title>
		<link>http://www.mediawatchwatch.org.uk/2006/11/01/spooks-prompts-a-whinge/comment-page-1/#comment-38900</link>
		<dc:creator>Ian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Nov 2006 08:49:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As a Christian, I have to say I found spooks to be quite entertaining. It was also nice to see the same treatment given to my faith that is often given to muslims. I thought it was an entertaining episode. Whilst I&#039;m glad that _most_ people of faith don&#039;t blow themselves up, it&#039;s not something that should be discounted. There are nutters everywhere, they aren&#039;t just restricted to Islam. As Christian Voice prooves.

What I do find deeply offensive is the fact that CV claims to speak for me, and other churchgoers, when really it&#039;s as out of touch as the BNP.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a Christian, I have to say I found spooks to be quite entertaining. It was also nice to see the same treatment given to my faith that is often given to muslims. I thought it was an entertaining episode. Whilst I&#8217;m glad that _most_ people of faith don&#8217;t blow themselves up, it&#8217;s not something that should be discounted. There are nutters everywhere, they aren&#8217;t just restricted to Islam. As Christian Voice prooves.</p>
<p>What I do find deeply offensive is the fact that CV claims to speak for me, and other churchgoers, when really it&#8217;s as out of touch as the BNP.</p>
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		<title>By: martyn</title>
		<link>http://www.mediawatchwatch.org.uk/2006/11/01/spooks-prompts-a-whinge/comment-page-1/#comment-38464</link>
		<dc:creator>martyn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Nov 2006 13:56:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There are vast swathes of this planet with bugger all there (deserts etc.) Wouldn&#039;t it be nice to just ship all the religious mental patients out to such an area and let them kick lumps out of each other there? Now that would make good reality TV. Perhaps SH-ITV should look into it ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There are vast swathes of this planet with bugger all there (deserts etc.) Wouldn&#8217;t it be nice to just ship all the religious mental patients out to such an area and let them kick lumps out of each other there? Now that would make good reality TV. Perhaps SH-ITV should look into it <img src='http://www.mediawatchwatch.org.uk/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: The Evil European</title>
		<link>http://www.mediawatchwatch.org.uk/2006/11/01/spooks-prompts-a-whinge/comment-page-1/#comment-38430</link>
		<dc:creator>The Evil European</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Nov 2006 12:36:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Of course, in the UK we have never had terrorist groups that have been inspired by a particular branch of religion.....{cough} NORTHERN IRELAND {cough}</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Of course, in the UK we have never had terrorist groups that have been inspired by a particular branch of religion&#8230;..{cough} NORTHERN IRELAND {cough}</p>
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		<title>By: Sam</title>
		<link>http://www.mediawatchwatch.org.uk/2006/11/01/spooks-prompts-a-whinge/comment-page-1/#comment-38171</link>
		<dc:creator>Sam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Nov 2006 23:33:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And if they did a show about a homosexual group who would be the first to say,
&lt;blockquote&gt;This is yet another outrageous example of the BBC’s anti-Christian bias. This beggars belief. I do think that there is a sinister and malicious agenda at work here and that they are trying to plant the seed of the idea through fiction that homosexuals are completely normal, don;t they know this is a Christian country, how dare they encourage this sort of behaviour&lt;/blockquote&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And if they did a show about a homosexual group who would be the first to say,</p>
<blockquote><p>This is yet another outrageous example of the BBC’s anti-Christian bias. This beggars belief. I do think that there is a sinister and malicious agenda at work here and that they are trying to plant the seed of the idea through fiction that homosexuals are completely normal, don;t they know this is a Christian country, how dare they encourage this sort of behaviour</p></blockquote>
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		<title>By: Graham Deans Williamson</title>
		<link>http://www.mediawatchwatch.org.uk/2006/11/01/spooks-prompts-a-whinge/comment-page-1/#comment-38070</link>
		<dc:creator>Graham Deans Williamson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Nov 2006 19:29:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ian - that&#039;s true.  I remember when the Time Trumpet controversy kicked off a couple of months ago and some Mail reader who evidently thought he was a genius asked whether &quot;fearless satirist&quot; Armando Ianucci would ever dare mock extremist Muslim organisations.  My response - that if said commenter had bothered to read the article he was commenting on, he would have seen that Ianucci was in trouble for doing exactly that - strangely never got displayed.  I assume it merely got lost in the e-post, or something similarly innocent.

With regards to Christian terrorism, the folk over at Pickled Politics have been keeping an eye on the case of some BNP members caught with bomb-making equipment for a while now, and then there&#039;s this once-published, immediately-forgotten story: http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,2087-2340538,00.html

Remember, when people like Green and Horrocks say there are no Christian terrorists, what they really mean is &quot;We don&#039;t know if there are any Christian terrorists, and frankly we can&#039;t be bothered to find out.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ian &#8211; that&#8217;s true.  I remember when the Time Trumpet controversy kicked off a couple of months ago and some Mail reader who evidently thought he was a genius asked whether &#8220;fearless satirist&#8221; Armando Ianucci would ever dare mock extremist Muslim organisations.  My response &#8211; that if said commenter had bothered to read the article he was commenting on, he would have seen that Ianucci was in trouble for doing exactly that &#8211; strangely never got displayed.  I assume it merely got lost in the e-post, or something similarly innocent.</p>
<p>With regards to Christian terrorism, the folk over at Pickled Politics have been keeping an eye on the case of some BNP members caught with bomb-making equipment for a while now, and then there&#8217;s this once-published, immediately-forgotten story: <a href="http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,2087-2340538,00.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,2087-2340538,00.html</a></p>
<p>Remember, when people like Green and Horrocks say there are no Christian terrorists, what they really mean is &#8220;We don&#8217;t know if there are any Christian terrorists, and frankly we can&#8217;t be bothered to find out.&#8221;</p>
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