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	<description>Watching. Pointing. Laughing.</description>
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		<title>By: Britney British</title>
		<link>http://www.mediawatchwatch.org.uk/2007/02/10/toon-rage-in-cambridge/comment-page-1/#comment-64727</link>
		<dc:creator>Britney British</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Feb 2007 21:37:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>See my blog, God Help Britain, to find out what I am doing to help and what you can do too. Insider info to come shortly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>See my blog, God Help Britain, to find out what I am doing to help and what you can do too. Insider info to come shortly.</p>
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		<title>By: George Arndt</title>
		<link>http://www.mediawatchwatch.org.uk/2007/02/10/toon-rage-in-cambridge/comment-page-1/#comment-64270</link>
		<dc:creator>George Arndt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Feb 2007 00:17:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There is a great deal of simularity between  the Politically Correct, Jiahdists and the Religious Right. But, these three groups are natural allies, aren’t they? 

Call it the axis of small-mindedness or perhaps the &quot;axis of the forever offended.&quot;

I say &quot;fuck them all&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is a great deal of simularity between  the Politically Correct, Jiahdists and the Religious Right. But, these three groups are natural allies, aren’t they? </p>
<p>Call it the axis of small-mindedness or perhaps the &#8220;axis of the forever offended.&#8221;</p>
<p>I say &#8220;fuck them all&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Poustman</title>
		<link>http://www.mediawatchwatch.org.uk/2007/02/10/toon-rage-in-cambridge/comment-page-1/#comment-64241</link>
		<dc:creator>Poustman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Feb 2007 21:23:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The problem caused by some Muslims is the threat of violence and violent protest.  Expressing outrage is perfectly in bounds.

As was expressed above, the problem cause by the college is the &#039;disciplinary procedures&#039; which are expected.  (Arguably, an investigation has a cooling effect on free speech as well, but the idea of not investigating in order to not cool free speech seems to itself be problematic.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The problem caused by some Muslims is the threat of violence and violent protest.  Expressing outrage is perfectly in bounds.</p>
<p>As was expressed above, the problem cause by the college is the &#8216;disciplinary procedures&#8217; which are expected.  (Arguably, an investigation has a cooling effect on free speech as well, but the idea of not investigating in order to not cool free speech seems to itself be problematic.)</p>
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		<title>By: GagWatch &#187; Mo&#8217; toon news</title>
		<link>http://www.mediawatchwatch.org.uk/2007/02/10/toon-rage-in-cambridge/comment-page-1/#comment-63792</link>
		<dc:creator>GagWatch &#187; Mo&#8217; toon news</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Feb 2007 20:47:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] one, but two Muhammed cartoon stories (yes, it is still trundling along), both lifted from Media Watch [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] one, but two Muhammed cartoon stories (yes, it is still trundling along), both lifted from Media Watch [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Journalista - the news weblog of The Comics Journal &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Feb. 12, 2007: Spider-Man&#8217;s radioactive sperm, and other atrocities</title>
		<link>http://www.mediawatchwatch.org.uk/2007/02/10/toon-rage-in-cambridge/comment-page-1/#comment-63713</link>
		<dc:creator>Journalista - the news weblog of The Comics Journal &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Feb. 12, 2007: Spider-Man&#8217;s radioactive sperm, and other atrocities</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Feb 2007 12:22:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] News gives exactly one side of the controversy an opportunity to air its grievances, leaving MediaWatchWatch to take up the defense. (Thanks to &#8220;Holden Carver&#8221; for emailing me that last [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] News gives exactly one side of the controversy an opportunity to air its grievances, leaving MediaWatchWatch to take up the defense. (Thanks to &#8220;Holden Carver&#8221; for emailing me that last [...]</p>
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		<title>By: G. Tingey</title>
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		<dc:creator>G. Tingey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Feb 2007 09:04:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is disgraceful, craven cowardice ....
Also, pehaps Clare College, and several other places could do with the &quot;JesusandMo&quot; cartoons as another example, and watch their heads explode ...
See:
http://jesusandmo.net/

and other cartoons on this site

Also, I understand that the National Secular Society are preparing a formal protest to the principal of Clare College.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is disgraceful, craven cowardice &#8230;.<br />
Also, pehaps Clare College, and several other places could do with the &#8220;JesusandMo&#8221; cartoons as another example, and watch their heads explode &#8230;<br />
See:<br />
<a href="http://jesusandmo.net/" rel="nofollow">http://jesusandmo.net/</a></p>
<p>and other cartoons on this site</p>
<p>Also, I understand that the National Secular Society are preparing a formal protest to the principal of Clare College.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeremy Hurlock</title>
		<link>http://www.mediawatchwatch.org.uk/2007/02/10/toon-rage-in-cambridge/comment-page-1/#comment-63617</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeremy Hurlock</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Feb 2007 02:31:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What I found very worrying was how often the newspaper article refered to this as a &#039;racist&#039; incident when it seems to be nothing of the sort.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What I found very worrying was how often the newspaper article refered to this as a &#8216;racist&#8217; incident when it seems to be nothing of the sort.</p>
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		<title>By: Ophelia Benson</title>
		<link>http://www.mediawatchwatch.org.uk/2007/02/10/toon-rage-in-cambridge/comment-page-1/#comment-63614</link>
		<dc:creator>Ophelia Benson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Feb 2007 02:20:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Indeed, it would be a violation of freedom of speech to condemn those who express outrage merely because they are expressing outrage&quot;

Nuh-uh - would not either - it&#039;s not a violation of free speech to express outrage at those who express outrage at those who express outrage at those who express outrage at those who express outrage. Keep up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Indeed, it would be a violation of freedom of speech to condemn those who express outrage merely because they are expressing outrage&#8221;</p>
<p>Nuh-uh &#8211; would not either &#8211; it&#8217;s not a violation of free speech to express outrage at those who express outrage at those who express outrage at those who express outrage at those who express outrage. Keep up.</p>
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		<title>By: Alonzo Fyfe</title>
		<link>http://www.mediawatchwatch.org.uk/2007/02/10/toon-rage-in-cambridge/comment-page-1/#comment-63529</link>
		<dc:creator>Alonzo Fyfe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Feb 2007 15:12:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Recently, the atheist community was outraged by comments that Karen Hunter and Schlussel on &lt;a href=&quot;http://atheism.about.com/b/a/258728.htm&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Paula Zahn Now&lt;/a&gt; on CNN.

There is no fault at expressing outrage at an insult, or in demanding an apology, or in insisting that a respected news organization inhibit their reporters from making these types of comments.

Indeed, it would be a violation of freedom of speech to condemn those who express outrage &lt;i&gt;merely because they are expressing outrage&lt;/i&gt; - to say that speech which is expressing outrage is not to be allowed.

I find it surprising how many people insist on the free speech rights of printing a cartoon, but not the free speech rights over expressing outrage over a cartoon.

However, the proper limit for expressing outrage for words written (or cartoons drawn) is with words and private action (meaning, the types of actions people can perform every day, such as deciding with whom to do business, who to invite to a gathering, or who to go with to the football game).

Free speech is not violated when words (or cartoons) are met with words (or cartoons) or private peaceful actions in response, but only when one escalates the conflict to threats of violence (including criminal punishment). Where none of that has happened, no rights have been violated.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Recently, the atheist community was outraged by comments that Karen Hunter and Schlussel on <a href="http://atheism.about.com/b/a/258728.htm" rel="nofollow">Paula Zahn Now</a> on CNN.</p>
<p>There is no fault at expressing outrage at an insult, or in demanding an apology, or in insisting that a respected news organization inhibit their reporters from making these types of comments.</p>
<p>Indeed, it would be a violation of freedom of speech to condemn those who express outrage <i>merely because they are expressing outrage</i> &#8211; to say that speech which is expressing outrage is not to be allowed.</p>
<p>I find it surprising how many people insist on the free speech rights of printing a cartoon, but not the free speech rights over expressing outrage over a cartoon.</p>
<p>However, the proper limit for expressing outrage for words written (or cartoons drawn) is with words and private action (meaning, the types of actions people can perform every day, such as deciding with whom to do business, who to invite to a gathering, or who to go with to the football game).</p>
<p>Free speech is not violated when words (or cartoons) are met with words (or cartoons) or private peaceful actions in response, but only when one escalates the conflict to threats of violence (including criminal punishment). Where none of that has happened, no rights have been violated.</p>
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		<title>By: Monitor</title>
		<link>http://www.mediawatchwatch.org.uk/2007/02/10/toon-rage-in-cambridge/comment-page-1/#comment-63383</link>
		<dc:creator>Monitor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Feb 2007 17:33:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, thanks. I fixed that :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, thanks. I fixed that <img src='http://www.mediawatchwatch.org.uk/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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