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	<title>Comments on: Welsh newspaper apologises for offending bigots</title>
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		<title>By: artstuff</title>
		<link>http://www.mediawatchwatch.org.uk/2008/07/30/welsh-newspaper-apologises-for-offending-bigots/comment-page-1/#comment-176122</link>
		<dc:creator>artstuff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Aug 2008 12:00:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gee, we have the right never to be offended.   Anything we disagree with should be labeled “hate speech” and those who hold those views should be promptly locked up or at least drawn and quartered.  That way we’re sending a message that we, who dwell in the bosom of love, will not stand for being offended.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gee, we have the right never to be offended.   Anything we disagree with should be labeled “hate speech” and those who hold those views should be promptly locked up or at least drawn and quartered.  That way we’re sending a message that we, who dwell in the bosom of love, will not stand for being offended.</p>
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		<title>By: S Robertson</title>
		<link>http://www.mediawatchwatch.org.uk/2008/07/30/welsh-newspaper-apologises-for-offending-bigots/comment-page-1/#comment-174108</link>
		<dc:creator>S Robertson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Aug 2008 10:50:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Stephen Green gloats about his tiumph against freedom of speach: http://www.christianvoice.org.uk/Press/press098.html. It is strange that he complains about &#039;Jesus-hating zealots&#039; signing the reinstatement petition twice considering the number of people who double signed in support of his petition. I may be cynical but I find it hard to believe that he isn&#039;t responsible for several of the anonymous entries on it, which would confirm what everyone knows - he&#039;s a hypocrite.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Stephen Green gloats about his tiumph against freedom of speach: <a href="http://www.christianvoice.org.uk/Press/press098.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.christianvoice.org.uk/Press/press098.html</a>. It is strange that he complains about &#8216;Jesus-hating zealots&#8217; signing the reinstatement petition twice considering the number of people who double signed in support of his petition. I may be cynical but I find it hard to believe that he isn&#8217;t responsible for several of the anonymous entries on it, which would confirm what everyone knows &#8211; he&#8217;s a hypocrite.</p>
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		<title>By: David</title>
		<link>http://www.mediawatchwatch.org.uk/2008/07/30/welsh-newspaper-apologises-for-offending-bigots/comment-page-1/#comment-173937</link>
		<dc:creator>David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Aug 2008 05:46:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Will the Echo apologise for this as well?

http://thecynicaldragon.blogspot.com/2008/08/will-echo-apologise-for-this-as-well.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Will the Echo apologise for this as well?</p>
<p><a href="http://thecynicaldragon.blogspot.com/2008/08/will-echo-apologise-for-this-as-well.html" rel="nofollow">http://thecynicaldragon.blogspot.com/2008/08/will-echo-apologise-for-this-as-well.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Andy Armitage</title>
		<link>http://www.mediawatchwatch.org.uk/2008/07/30/welsh-newspaper-apologises-for-offending-bigots/comment-page-1/#comment-169458</link>
		<dc:creator>Andy Armitage</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jul 2008 11:35:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A previous editor of the &lt;i&gt;Echo&lt;/i&gt; &lt;a href=&quot;http://theechoeditor.welshblogs.co.uk/2007/08/dan_o_neil_and_the_eisteddfod.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;defended&lt;/a&gt; O&#039;Neil&#039;s writing last year after O&#039;Neil had written something perhaps a bit edgy about the Eisteddfod. The editor said, &quot;A light-heared columnist like Dan SHOULD be able to poke fun at something like the Eisteddfod. Just like he should any other subject be it Christianity, Islam, politics, sex, the colour of your socks.

As long as he is acting within the law he, and every other writer, should be allowed the freedom to write and to provoke discussion.

Change of editor, change of level of kowtowing to religion, it would seem.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A previous editor of the <i>Echo</i> <a href="http://theechoeditor.welshblogs.co.uk/2007/08/dan_o_neil_and_the_eisteddfod.html" rel="nofollow">defended</a> O&#8217;Neil&#8217;s writing last year after O&#8217;Neil had written something perhaps a bit edgy about the Eisteddfod. The editor said, &#8220;A light-heared columnist like Dan SHOULD be able to poke fun at something like the Eisteddfod. Just like he should any other subject be it Christianity, Islam, politics, sex, the colour of your socks.</p>
<p>As long as he is acting within the law he, and every other writer, should be allowed the freedom to write and to provoke discussion.</p>
<p>Change of editor, change of level of kowtowing to religion, it would seem.</p>
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		<title>By: The Freethinker &#8250; South Wales Echo caves in to Christian bigots</title>
		<link>http://www.mediawatchwatch.org.uk/2008/07/30/welsh-newspaper-apologises-for-offending-bigots/comment-page-1/#comment-169432</link>
		<dc:creator>The Freethinker &#8250; South Wales Echo caves in to Christian bigots</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jul 2008 10:42:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Mediawatchwatch points out: He was speculating on what Stephen Green would have thought of Jesus â€¦ Green took [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Mediawatchwatch points out: He was speculating on what Stephen Green would have thought of Jesus â€¦ Green took [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Dave</title>
		<link>http://www.mediawatchwatch.org.uk/2008/07/30/welsh-newspaper-apologises-for-offending-bigots/comment-page-1/#comment-169379</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jul 2008 09:26:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I added the &#039;counted six&#039; bit as a snarky bit of commentary

Unfortunately</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I added the &#8216;counted six&#8217; bit as a snarky bit of commentary</p>
<p>Unfortunately</p>
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		<title>By: Stuart W</title>
		<link>http://www.mediawatchwatch.org.uk/2008/07/30/welsh-newspaper-apologises-for-offending-bigots/comment-page-1/#comment-169368</link>
		<dc:creator>Stuart W</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jul 2008 09:03:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>At least they got a pithy &quot;(Cynical Dragon counted Six)&quot; comment in to show just how minority the sensitive complaintants were.

David is right; Stephen &#039;Insanity&#039; Green completely distorted the context in the press release for obvious embarressed reasons, i.e O&#039;Neil is suggesting that that&#039;s that kind of thing that Green, who has called child molesting a &#039;natural extention of homosexuality&#039;, might have said.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>At least they got a pithy &#8220;(Cynical Dragon counted Six)&#8221; comment in to show just how minority the sensitive complaintants were.</p>
<p>David is right; Stephen &#8216;Insanity&#8217; Green completely distorted the context in the press release for obvious embarressed reasons, i.e O&#8217;Neil is suggesting that that&#8217;s that kind of thing that Green, who has called child molesting a &#8216;natural extention of homosexuality&#8217;, might have said.</p>
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		<title>By: David</title>
		<link>http://www.mediawatchwatch.org.uk/2008/07/30/welsh-newspaper-apologises-for-offending-bigots/comment-page-1/#comment-169309</link>
		<dc:creator>David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jul 2008 06:45:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dave R.

To be fair to Dan (and I&#039;m not a fan of his) the offending statement is preceded by the question &quot;How would this fanatical Hammerer of Homosexuals, leader of a bunch of annoying bigots have interpreted events in Palestine a couple of thousand years ago?&quot;

So you see Dan isn&#039;t making the link between homosexuality and paedophilia, he&#039;s suggesting that Stephen Green does (oh and he does all the time).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dave R.</p>
<p>To be fair to Dan (and I&#8217;m not a fan of his) the offending statement is preceded by the question &#8220;How would this fanatical Hammerer of Homosexuals, leader of a bunch of annoying bigots have interpreted events in Palestine a couple of thousand years ago?&#8221;</p>
<p>So you see Dan isn&#8217;t making the link between homosexuality and paedophilia, he&#8217;s suggesting that Stephen Green does (oh and he does all the time).</p>
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		<title>By: Monitor</title>
		<link>http://www.mediawatchwatch.org.uk/2008/07/30/welsh-newspaper-apologises-for-offending-bigots/comment-page-1/#comment-168909</link>
		<dc:creator>Monitor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jul 2008 22:07:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>David, I seem to remember reading the last line of the currently available article in the original - perhaps it was an older article added to the end of it.

Dave R - yes, I know. I originally had a paragraph about how outraged the gay community should be at the idea of suggesting someone it gay is regarded as insulting. But when I reread O&#039;Neil&#039;s article and saw he was conflating homosexuality with paedophilia I realised that he is probably a lost cause himself.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>David, I seem to remember reading the last line of the currently available article in the original &#8211; perhaps it was an older article added to the end of it.</p>
<p>Dave R &#8211; yes, I know. I originally had a paragraph about how outraged the gay community should be at the idea of suggesting someone it gay is regarded as insulting. But when I reread O&#8217;Neil&#8217;s article and saw he was conflating homosexuality with paedophilia I realised that he is probably a lost cause himself.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave Rattigan</title>
		<link>http://www.mediawatchwatch.org.uk/2008/07/30/welsh-newspaper-apologises-for-offending-bigots/comment-page-1/#comment-168848</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave Rattigan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jul 2008 21:25:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m not surprised by the Christian reaction. But I&#039;m baffled what &quot;He picks up small boys and girls and puts his hands upon them,&quot; is supposed to imply about being gay.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not surprised by the Christian reaction. But I&#8217;m baffled what &#8220;He picks up small boys and girls and puts his hands upon them,&#8221; is supposed to imply about being gay.</p>
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