Comments on: OIC wags its finger and “Faith Fighter” is removed

By: r4 games

r4 games — Sun, 17 May 2009 07:43:59 +0000

Its really funny game to play, plus game should be treated as an entertainment and should not be really taken that seriously. To me its really funny game and more entertaining.

By: littlebrownsambo

littlebrownsambo — Fri, 08 May 2009 11:27:37 +0000

p.s.

to clarify, I LOVE faith fighter, think it’s funny as fuck, and i would think God finds it funny too.

I am generally in favour of as much freedom of expression as possible, but that right is *NOT* absolute (pedo images, anyone?). Sometimes certain things must be restricted.

Personally I think faith fighter does not fall into the category of things that should be censored (I would encourage disseminating it!), but it is not *necessarily obviously true*. If people feel it is offensive to thumb-one’s-nose at their religion in that way, they have as much right to voice that feeling of offence as the authors of the game had to make it – eeven if I disagree with them vehemently.

By: littlebrownsambo

littlebrownsambo — Fri, 08 May 2009 11:19:39 +0000

Jesus christ! The views expressed here really *are* offensive – not because of the un-argued assumption that all religious belief is perverse or insane, but because of the denial of the existence of ‘islamophobia’ whilst flagrantly displaying it!

Saying islamophobia does not exist is like saying that ‘antisemitism does not exist’ – Islam is a coherent block of overlapping racial, cultural and religous identities, much like Judaism.

As someone who has been in turns an atheist and then religious, but never really a Muslim, but who comes from a nominally muslim background, I can say that the hostility is in my fucking face all the time. This is ironic considering I don’t even believe in the Koran or the prophethood of mohammed – and even if I did the hostility would not be justified. I know believers, some devout, who are not stupid or insane, and to label all muslims (no matter what their degree of adherence) as some evil intolerant darkie barbarian horde (which is clearly the subtext of the ‘skeptical’ ‘well reasoned’ comments here) is both wrong and evil.

Having tarred all muslims with the same brush, the commentors then fall back on the ‘no true scotsman’ fallacy. “Hey, I don’t just have contempt and fear for ALL muslims, only ALL TRUE MUSLIMS”.

The level of arguments amongst the ‘skeptics’ here is pathetic. In fact, it is about the same level of debate you get in a Pakistani Madresseh recruiting for Al Qaeda. And about the same level of unthinking, smug arrogance as well.

Frankly, fuck y’all and your badly disguised racism masquerading as ‘tolerance for freedom’.

Take the beam out your own eyes, you cunts.

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By: Dan Factor

Dan Factor — Wed, 29 Apr 2009 11:49:03 +0000

“He said that the game would serve no other purpose than to incite intolerance.”

How? It’s just a game. Are people going to go beating up Muslims or Christians after playing it?

There is enough intolerance from religious types already.

By: aharon

aharon — Wed, 29 Apr 2009 10:37:35 +0000

lol they now have faith fighter 2 – a lame game, mind.. These Molleindustria guys need a good talking to..

By: aharon

aharon — Wed, 29 Apr 2009 08:39:39 +0000

barriejohn, my point exactly! Well, Dan Dennett’s as well, that most people are not making a conscious choice as to either profess to a religion, or *try* to beleive in what ever happened to be the dominant religion around them. However, I’d argue further, that it will be wrong to put it all down to religions… For example, most people, without much questioning – hence a questionable process of conscious activity – are fairly happy with the kind of music being spawned at the via corporate media outlets.. Its about rowing merrily down stream – not much else. Which is why, in terms of religious expansion strategies, they keep concentrating on commanding heights to try give people the impression, religion is all that there is.. Notice, for example, the insistence to perceive anyone only in the context of religion… Believer, non-believer, and talking of atheists as within their own religion..

I should really make more use of a different terminology.. Such as sceptics and anti-sceptics…

By: barriejohn

barriejohn — Wed, 29 Apr 2009 07:22:43 +0000

We`re in danger of splitting hairs here just like the religious “nutters” Aharon (hahaha!!), but my idea of a “believer” is someone who makes a free, conscious, intelligent choice to follow a particular doctrine, not someone who has been indoctrinated, or forced to follow a certain code at the point of a gun. Millions of Britons would call themselves “Christian”, but have very little understanding of the tenets of the faith. They don`t really “believe” any of it! I don`t think for one moment that all these billions of “Muslims” really swallow all this nonsense about “The Prophet”; as you say, culture and coercion have a big part to play. When former Muslim countries become secularised you don`t see all the thousands of former “devotees” rising up en masse – in fact quite the opposite. The women in particular grab the new freedoms they are given with both hands!! Still, we`re on the same side here, and like you I think it`s a real tragedy that a minority of religious extremists have so many millions in thrall.

By: Aharon

Aharon — Tue, 28 Apr 2009 23:50:42 +0000

If you asked her, she’d say she was.. And indeed, she is the majority of the 1.5 billion muslims the various nutters can not help defending..

By: barriejohn

barriejohn — Tue, 28 Apr 2009 23:05:08 +0000

She`s not really a Muslim then aharon!!!