Interview with Stephen Green
Stephen Green of Christian Voice has endeavoured to answer via email a few questions which have been troubling us here at Mediawatchwatch for some time.
I promised to print his answers in full, unedited and without sarcastic interpolation. That was harder than you can imagine, but here you go:
MWW: The cancer charity Maggie’s Centres turned down the offer of a potential £3000 after a phone call from you. You have said that you “were pleased to play a part in alerting Maggie’s Centres to the potential public relations disaster.” Some have commented that as the public relations disaster would have occurred as a result of your actions, this is a bit like a mugger being pleased to play a part in alerting his victim to the danger of a severe beating should she refuse to hand over her purse. How do you respond to this?
SG: Maggies have now made many times over the £3000 they were due to get from Jerry Springer the Opera. It’s a funny sort of mugger who gives money to people. I always said Almighty God is a better provider than Satan. However, although Maggies Centres admit they have made money out of the publicity over their turning down Jerry Springer, they go all coy and embarrassed when you actually ask them exactly how much, and frankly, they must know by now. Perhaps you will have better success than I have had in getting a figure out of them.
MWW: Ofcom has stated that the characters portrayed in Jerry Springer: The Opera were not conveyed as accurate representation of religious figures, but were “characterisations of the shows participants”. Furthermore, they were the product of a fictional Springer’s hallucinations. Isn’t therefore your complaint that Jesus is portrayed blasphemously simply false, if Jesus is not actually portrayed at all?
SG: It is patently absurd to say that Jesus is not portrayed in Jerry Springer the Opera. The character is addressed throughout Act 2 as “Jesus”. We don’t set too much store by the opinions of the establishment timeservers who comprise ‘Ofcom’. However, Ofcom said specifically it was not their job to adjudicate on whether Jerry Springer the Opera was blasphemous. That, they said, is a matter for the criminal courts.
MWW: Fundamental to your outlook is the belief that the Bible is the ulimate source of authority as the infallible Word of God. By what process of reasoning did you arrive at this conclusion about the Bible?
SG: When I looked at the world around me, I realised that for me to believe in evolution required more of a suspension of credulity than I could muster. Why does the peacock have such a magnificent tail? ‘So he can attract a mate’, the evolutionist replies. So how does the hedge-sparrow do it? Whales were pigs who took an early-morning dip and, hey-presto, their spines swivelled round and they developed fins and tails and blow-holes before they drowned. And loads of them did it so they could reproduce as different kinds of whale. All by chance. Please!
Once I realised that there was intelligent design around me, there had to be a super-intelligent designer. It seems reasonable to me to ascribe to such a being the character of God. There being a God, it seems reasonable that He would communicate with mankind in some way, and that He could inspire human beings to make writings to convey His message to all generations. And being God, it also seems reasonable that He would be infallible, all-knowing and eternal. His message will also be intellectually coherent, as the Bible demonstrates.
MWW: You have on a number of occasions stated that you feel moved by the Lord to act. Does God speak to you directly? If so, how do you know it is God?
SG: Good of you to acknowledge the Lord and God with a capital L and G. Maybe you aren’t as far from Him as you think, David. Anyway, when your whole life is dedicated to doing His will, you soon get to know when God is speaking and when He is not. It’s going to be as hard for me to get you to understand how God speaks as it would be for me to explain how to fly around the world to someone who believes it’s flat.
MWW: The world is full of people of various religions, many of whom are equally convinced as you are of their own rectitude. Being utterly convinced of the truth of something which is not true – especially regarding the holiness of a particular book, or the existence of a particular deity – is a commonly observable phenomenon, as I’m sure you will agree. What is it that makes your judgement on these matters superior to the rest of humanity who believe in different sacred books and deities from your own?
SG: Mankind is capable of rejecting God, and when we do that, we worship some aspect of His creation which we regard as divine, or ‘just there’ So in pagan religions such as pre-dated Christianity in these islands, they worship the sun, the rain, fertility and all the things which are important to their economy. In doing that, they diminish man himself and they soon end up with human sacrifice. Well, every pagan culture has, and it’s usually their children they sacrifice. (Deut 12:31) But atheism (or ‘secular humanism’) itself is a form of paganism, in which man worships mankind and mankind’s powers of reason, such as they are. Secular humanism is the dominant culture in Britain today, and we too, kill our own children, before they are born, in special clinics. Not much of an advance from the civilisation of ancient Canaan, is it, really?
So what makes Christianity true and the pagan religions and Islam untrue? The incontrovertible fact that Jesus Christ not only existed but kept and taught the law, healed the sick, fed the hungry and raised the dead. Other writings (such as we find in pagan societies) are unashamed myth. The pagan gods were made in man’s image with all our frailties. Jesus lived a life without sin and His miracles were witnessed with a far better standard of proof than you find in our criminal courts. Mohammed is dead and buried, the pagan gods never existed. Jesus lived, died, rose again and ascended into heaven, all in front of witnesses. That is why He can say “I am the way, the truth and the life. No-one cometh unto the father, but by me.” (John 14:6)
MWW: The deity which you worship appears to have deliberately created a universe in which He knew His crown of creation would upset Him in such a way as to necessitate His sacrificing Himself to Himself in order for a proportion of humanity to reconcile themselves with Him while the remainder suffer in His absence for eternity. How would you go about convincing people who find this scenario unlikely to be true?
SG: How, indeed could anyone believe that God would so love the world, and so want sinful men and women to be reconciled to Him that He would become human Himself at a certain point in history and suffer an excruciating death by crucifixion, so that all anyone has to do to have their sins forgiven is simply to believe in Him? How could anyone have that much love? Thank God Jesus did, and in His own words told us: “For God so loved the world, that He gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in Him should not perish, but have everlasting life.” (John 3:16) If He did that for me, then the least I can do is share that good news with others, and speak out for Him against the injustice and wickedness of our age, praying that our nation will repent before it is too late.
So thanks for your questions and the opportunity to share God’s truth with you. I pray you too will put your trust in Him. I hope that’s not too big a prayer: after all, God works miracles, doesn’t he?