Don’t make fun of Cristina
Cristina Odone in The Observer is complaining about people who make fun of idiot religious conservatives. She opens her argument with a common misreading of Gibbon’s The History of the Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire which claims that the people of Rome became so weakened by booze, sex, and pushing the boundaries of taste and decency that they were no match for the invading barbarians. Gibbon’s thesis is, of course, more complex than that, and the reality is more complex than Gibbon’s thesis, but it’s a useful myth for self-appointed moral guardians to put about.
Anyway, we mustn’t be mean because,
By deriding their dissent, they are pushing a basically innocuous force into strident outbursts or, worse, violence.
Cristina Odone is a self-confessed Catholic. This means that she believes in an anthropomorphic Creator of the Universe who chooses to manifest himself on a weekly basis in the form of millions of tiny biscuits.
Not that we here at MWW would dream of mocking her for that. She might hit us.
Yes we shouldn’t mock the self appointed moral minority because they are only trying to return us to a time when life was decent and there was no sex on TV.
Oh bollocks!
There is nothing wrong with mocking those who think they have a diven right to tell us how we should be living our lives and trying to force their self righteous views on the rest of us.
These groups think they are saving us from moral degredation but all they are doing is trying to shape us and our society into the way they think it should be regardless of what everybody else thinks.
Those that bleat about sex and porn on TV only do so because they believe it is wrong, usually because the have some sanctimonious relegious belief and want to stop everyone else from enjoying it because it goes against THEIR beliefs.
Well I do not want to believe the same things these moral muggers do and I will fight to the death my rights to live my life the way I choose without Christian Voice or any other pious pressure group trying to choose my lifestyle for me.
I will look at men’s magazines with women half naked because I choooose to do so. If these moral guardians don’t like it HARD FUCKING CHEESE!
We live in a democracy and it’s time the relegious and moralists of this world accepted that everybody has different tastes and views and if they want to live in an intolerent heavily censored society perhaps they should jump onto the nearest airplane and find a country that fits their vision of how society should be. I hear flights to Malaysia arn’t expensive this time of year!
I think Gibbon also put a large part of the blame for the fall of Rome on the arrival of Christianity, with all that namby-pamby ‘love thy neighbour’ nonsense. Maybe Ms Odone’s copy is missing those pages.
Seems to me (and I might be wrong) that a lot of society’s problems are more down to poor education than poor TV; and it’s getting worse. What chance have kids got if we tell them (on one hand) they were created by the bearded sky fairy -and then, on the other- tell them they evolved slowly from a icky puddle of chemicals. If Christians want a return to Christianity, then they can’t use technology to do it because it goes against God – they’ve been saying so for years.
It’s all very well blaming the Muslims (and I have no time for them either) but the Christians are thought terrorists too they just wear a different costume.
Gibbons was full of it IMHO.
When you look at what Rome got up to, it was a jolly good thing (though not in a cultural sense) that it did fall.